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Dellight · Jun 13, 2007, 07:08 PM // 19:08

Warrior=large amount of armor....that is why it is a tank class..if they give it 20 armor they will crash the whole class into the hell(i mean W will be the worst class:s)

Dellight · Jun 13, 2007, 07:13 PM // 19:13

Btw W is my favorite class...but i don't know why anet is doing this freakin thingy with them

JeniM · Jun 13, 2007, 07:17 PM // 19:17

Anet just hate warrior

I Is Special · Jun 13, 2007, 07:23 PM // 19:23

I have no idea how people can pug and possibly have a Mending/HH/Healing breeze whammo in their group. WHY dont you take advantage of the "Billy Bob's Skills are xxxxxxxx"? The few times i do pug, i always ask almost everyone to say their builds, thusly i never get any noob/retarded builds in my team. And anyway, out of about a year of playing, I have only seen about 3 whammos with mending and healing hands/breeze in higher end PVE--I've seen many more of these whammos in PVP.

Thusly, it is almost your fault too for having this kind of whammo in your pug

Dellight · Jun 13, 2007, 07:24 PM // 19:24

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Originally Posted by JeniM

Anet just hate warrior

I agreee...unfortuatly

Pericles · Jun 13, 2007, 07:30 PM // 19:30

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Originally Posted by Dellight

Koss is a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO

I've never understood this joke, some1 plz explain it to me, (im new on the forums). As for the thread, i agree:
Koss is better than u.

Mister Overhill · Jun 13, 2007, 07:30 PM // 19:30

I have seen and been in many, many groups advertising for a tank (or two), and I've observed the class played poorly, well, and in-between. Warriors certainly have their place -- there just seems to be too many to go around.

Dellight · Jun 13, 2007, 07:31 PM // 19:31

All i can say is lol...
My skills are all warrior skills and my only monk skill is the ressurrect

Dellight · Jun 13, 2007, 07:33 PM // 19:33

Koss isn't better than me..koss is only an NPC..he can't really aggro...and he sux i think..that is why i don't use him

RaginAsian · Jun 13, 2007, 07:35 PM // 19:35

Where did you get the idea that warriors are going to have -20 armor? The change they plan on implementing is a +25 armor cap from skills. This means the warrior will still have its 80 base armor and inherent +20 versus physical. Armor from shields and weapon modifiers also doesn't count toward the cap, so unless I'm retarded, a warrior with a shield can still have 141 armor versus physical damage(100 base + 16 from a shield + 25 extra armor from skills like watch yourself). If you have high strength and use the insignia with +20 vs elemental then you can have 141 armor versus any kind of damage which is higher than any other class in the game. So in conclusion, warriors will still be used as tanks where tanks are needed.

Oh and what ever happened to people using warriors to kill stuff in parties instead of just being tanks?

Onarik Amrak · Jun 13, 2007, 07:39 PM // 19:39

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Originally Posted by Deathly_Overlord

Ha, why does nobody want warriors...

* Warrior is the n00b Proffesion. People who are starting off generally tend to pick warrior...
* 9/10 people who play warrior are absolute idiots, who do their best to agro as much as possible and generaly tend to think there character is better than any other and invicible...
*The max amount of warriors you ever need in a group is 2, any more and your asking for trouble

Im not saying that warriors are crap, just that most are

Hmmm, seems like the description I would give to the Assassin profession.

JeniM · Jun 13, 2007, 07:42 PM // 19:42

Well whats the ratio of damage when you compare a warrior to an ele?
Thats why warriors tank
Mind you my star burst can still kick butt

Thomas.knbk · Jun 13, 2007, 08:40 PM // 20:40

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Originally Posted by Water Angel

koss>you

True that.

The 'armor crap' as you call it, is implemented because paragons run around in groups stacking their armor up to the mid 140's, making them nigh invincible to anything that's not armor ignoring. This build is so overpowered that a team like [meow] got to rank 11 with it. Go think of that. Don't say it can be countered. Apart from the fact that that is totally irrelevant, the only hard counter to shouts is a hex with a 20 second recharge time, and the paragon build we're talking about has two copies of expel hexes.

Warriors still have the highest unconditional DPS in the game in the least skill slots (yeah thats right, higher than eles). They can pack a shitload of utility in the rest of their skill slots on top of that. This 'nerf' will probably make it harder to tank, but please don't say warriors are useless.

Does-it-Matter · Jun 13, 2007, 08:46 PM // 20:46

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Originally Posted by RaginAsian

Where did you get the idea that warriors are going to have -20 armor? The change they plan on implementing is a +25 armor cap from skills. This means the warrior will still have its 80 base armor and inherent +20 versus physical. Armor from shields and weapon modifiers also doesn't count toward the cap, so unless I'm retarded, a warrior with a shield can still have 141 armor versus physical damage(100 base + 16 from a shield + 25 extra armor from skills like watch yourself). If you have high strength and use the insignia with +20 vs elemental then you can have 141 armor versus any kind of damage which is higher than any other class in the game. So in conclusion, warriors will still be used as tanks where tanks are needed.

Oh and what ever happened to people using warriors to kill stuff in parties instead of just being tanks?

It's even better than that really. The +25 only works on stacking multiple armor buffs. A /single/ buff can still exceed 25, you just can't have two buffs (each less than 25) add to anything more than 25.

Like I've been saying, if you only have ONE armor buff, you are not affected.

wetsparks · Jun 14, 2007, 12:09 AM // 00:09

What happened to stances to avoid attacks? It doesn't matter how much armor you have against physical a miss still equals zero damage. Yes I know they got nerfed pretty bad a while back but you still can make a stance tank, it just requires more skills than before.

bleh · Jun 14, 2007, 12:22 AM // 00:22

warroirs are still great for farming i use mine way more often than trapper and 55 monk its simply more fun they can take almost any melee boss and if u use vengefull was khanai any ranged group thet doesnt heal ;p

as for usefullness in team my view is that warrs are not damage dealers but usefull for applying snares and keeping high damage enemies occupied (ie Tanking) you need a tank in groups because otherwise everyone will spend all the time "kiting" i find adren based builds with life bond or succor on monks are a big help to the team ( in low strip areas )

warr hasnt been nerfed just change your damn tactics ^^ once in a while pure damage warroir isnt always the way

VitisVinifera · Jun 14, 2007, 05:01 AM // 05:01

in regards to warriors have no farming builds left, this is simply ridiculous.

W/Rit vengeful smite farmer solo = all the ectos you want, and lots of good golds
W/x ausipicious riposter = can solo almost every war/sin/derv boss in the game, if you want to farm greens
W/N grenths = can solo many other bosses for their greens

Coloneh · Jun 14, 2007, 06:09 AM // 06:09

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Originally Posted by Dellight

loook...i played wow, i was a main tank in a good guild, we did karazhan
I can tank in gw too but actually no one party needs me...>.>

theres your problem, you think you are playing WoW. you are not a tank if you are a warrior. you are a DPS machine.

God Apprentice · Jun 14, 2007, 07:33 AM // 07:33

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Originally Posted by Pericles

Originally Posted by Dellight
Koss is a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO

I've never understood this joke, some1 plz explain it to me, (im new on the forums). As for the thread, i agree:
Koss is better than u.

When you try to type a curse word the forum changes it into the RED ENGINE text you see.

Example: Koss is such a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing noob.

ss1986v2 · Jun 14, 2007, 08:39 AM // 08:39

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Originally Posted by Coloneh

theres your problem, you think you are playing WoW. you are not a tank if you are a warrior. you are a DPS machine.

ding ding ding

we have a winner. just cant believe it took this long for someone to post it.

Jun 13, 2007, 07:08 PM // 19:08	#21
Dellight Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Hungary Guild: Spirit And Sanctuary(SaS) Profession: W/	Warrior=large amount of armor....that is why it is a tank class..if they give it 20 armor they will crash the whole class into the hell(i mean W will be the worst class:s)

Jun 13, 2007, 07:13 PM // 19:13	#22
Dellight Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Hungary Guild: Spirit And Sanctuary(SaS) Profession: W/	Btw W is my favorite class...but i don't know why anet is doing this freakin thingy with them

Jun 13, 2007, 07:17 PM // 19:17	#23
JeniM Desert Nomad Join Date: May 2007 Profession: W/E	Anet just hate warrior

Jun 13, 2007, 07:23 PM // 19:23	#24
I Is Special Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NJ Guild: To Gain Extra Mobility We Play [NUDE] Profession: W/	I have no idea how people can pug and possibly have a Mending/HH/Healing breeze whammo in their group. WHY dont you take advantage of the "Billy Bob's Skills are xxxxxxxx"? The few times i do pug, i always ask almost everyone to say their builds, thusly i never get any noob/retarded builds in my team. And anyway, out of about a year of playing, I have only seen about 3 whammos with mending and healing hands/breeze in higher end PVE--I've seen many more of these whammos in PVP. Thusly, it is almost your fault too for having this kind of whammo in your pug

Jun 13, 2007, 07:30 PM // 19:30	#27
Mister Overhill Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Tampa, Florida Guild: Sticks and Stones Profession: R/Rt	I have seen and been in many, many groups advertising for a tank (or two), and I've observed the class played poorly, well, and in-between. Warriors certainly have their place -- there just seems to be too many to go around.

Jun 13, 2007, 07:31 PM // 19:31	#28
Dellight Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Hungary Guild: Spirit And Sanctuary(SaS) Profession: W/	All i can say is lol... My skills are all warrior skills and my only monk skill is the ressurrect

Jun 13, 2007, 07:33 PM // 19:33	#29
Dellight Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Hungary Guild: Spirit And Sanctuary(SaS) Profession: W/	Koss isn't better than me..koss is only an NPC..he can't really aggro...and he sux i think..that is why i don't use him

Jun 13, 2007, 07:35 PM // 19:35	#30
RaginAsian Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: U.S. Guild: Buttermilk Biscuits[Yum] Profession: R/	Where did you get the idea that warriors are going to have -20 armor? The change they plan on implementing is a +25 armor cap from skills. This means the warrior will still have its 80 base armor and inherent +20 versus physical. Armor from shields and weapon modifiers also doesn't count toward the cap, so unless I'm retarded, a warrior with a shield can still have 141 armor versus physical damage(100 base + 16 from a shield + 25 extra armor from skills like watch yourself). If you have high strength and use the insignia with +20 vs elemental then you can have 141 armor versus any kind of damage which is higher than any other class in the game. So in conclusion, warriors will still be used as tanks where tanks are needed. Oh and what ever happened to people using warriors to kill stuff in parties instead of just being tanks?

Jun 13, 2007, 07:42 PM // 19:42	#32
JeniM Desert Nomad Join Date: May 2007 Profession: W/E	Well whats the ratio of damage when you compare a warrior to an ele? Thats why warriors tank Mind you my star burst can still kick butt

Jun 14, 2007, 12:09 AM // 00:09	#35
wetsparks Desert Nomad Join Date: Nov 2006	What happened to stances to avoid attacks? It doesn't matter how much armor you have against physical a miss still equals zero damage. Yes I know they got nerfed pretty bad a while back but you still can make a stance tank, it just requires more skills than before.

Jun 14, 2007, 12:22 AM // 00:22	#36
bleh Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: N.Z. Guild: _ Profession: P/	warroirs are still great for farming i use mine way more often than trapper and 55 monk its simply more fun they can take almost any melee boss and if u use vengefull was khanai any ranged group thet doesnt heal ;p as for usefullness in team my view is that warrs are not damage dealers but usefull for applying snares and keeping high damage enemies occupied (ie Tanking) you need a tank in groups because otherwise everyone will spend all the time "kiting" i find adren based builds with life bond or succor on monks are a big help to the team ( in low strip areas ) warr hasnt been nerfed just change your damn tactics ^^ once in a while pure damage warroir isnt always the way

Jun 14, 2007, 05:01 AM // 05:01	#37
VitisVinifera Banned Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Northern California Guild: HoTR Profession: N/Me	in regards to warriors have no farming builds left, this is simply ridiculous. W/Rit vengeful smite farmer solo = all the ectos you want, and lots of good golds W/x ausipicious riposter = can solo almost every war/sin/derv boss in the game, if you want to farm greens W/N grenths = can solo many other bosses for their greens